
We thought we were in the room with our reporting. PHILLIP RUCKER: You know, JOHN, when we were covering this day in and day out for The Washington Post in real time, we thought we knew it all. Was there anything that you saw as you went over this and looked at it from a slightly higher perspective that comes when you have to sit and write a book? JOHN DICKERSON: Phil, you- you both covered this in the daily minutia of and it's zaniness. You know, it is actually a crisis that puts all of us at risk and American lives are lost as a result.
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He rejects the- the suggestions of his closest advisers if it's not what he wants because he knows best in his mind, unfortunately, in 2020, it's no longer a PR spin game.

So as he becomes more emboldened, he rejects the advice of experts, he's the expert now. There's no consequence for stretching the law, bending it, breaking it, you know, in a criminal situation if he weren't president there are a lot of people who would argue he violated the law the first time around and as well the second time around. What's striking about that time frame is the president learns as a result of the first impeachment that he's untouchable. Is there a through line for President Trump's administration between those two impeachments?ĬAROL LEONNIG: Absolutely there is, JOHN. Your first book ended after the first impeachment. JOHN DICKERSON: We turn now to a new book that chronicles Donald Trump's tumultuous final year in office, Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker are the authors of 'I Alone Can Fix It.' Good morning to both of you. The following is a transcript of an interview with Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker, authors of "I Alone Can Fix It," that aired on Sunday, July 25, 2021, on "Face the Nation."
